TUPE and Redundancy: Pre-Transfer and Post-Transfer
Can you be made redundant during a TUPE transfer? Redundancy before transfer, after transfer, genuine redundancy vs disguised dismissal, and your rights.
TUPE doesn't prevent genuine redundancies, but protects against using redundancy as a disguise for transfer-related dismissals.
TUPE and Redundancy Can Coexist
Not Mutually Exclusive
Both can apply:
- TUPE protects employment during transfers
- But genuine redundancies can still occur
- Must be genuinely about jobs disappearing
- Not about the transfer itself
The Key Test
Is the redundancy:
| Genuine Redundancy | Disguised TUPE Dismissal |
|---|---|
| Role actually redundant | Role continues but with new employer |
| Work requirements diminished | Just want fewer staff |
| Would happen anyway | Only because of transfer |
| ETO reason exists | Cost-cutting for sale |
Pre-Transfer Redundancies
By Old Employer
Before transfer, old employer may claim:
- Roles are redundant
- Business reorganizing
- Needs to reduce headcount
- Independent of transfer
Suspicious Timing
Redundancies just before transfer:
- Tribunal will scrutinize heavily
- Burden on employer to prove genuine
- Connection to transfer inferred
- Must show would have happened anyway
When May Be Genuine
Could be genuine if:
- Redundancy process started before transfer plans
- Clear business case independent of sale
- Fair selection process
- Proper consultation
- Documented before transfer discussions
When Likely Not Genuine
Probably TUPE dismissal if:
- Announced after transfer agreed
- To make business more attractive
- Save new employer money
- No business case beyond transfer
- Roles continue with new employer
Post-Transfer Redundancies
By New Employer
After transfer, new employer may need to:
- Restructure combined business
- Merge overlapping roles
- Reduce duplication
- Genuine reorganization
ETO Requirement
Must show:
- Economic, technical or organisational reason
- Entailing changes in workforce
- Not just cost-cutting
- Actual role changes or reductions
Timing Matters
| When | Tribunal View |
|---|---|
| Immediately after | Very suspicious, likely connected |
| Weeks after | Still suspicious |
| Months after | More credible |
| Years after | Likely unconnected |
But even immediate redundancies can be genuine if properly justified.
Genuine Redundancy Situations
Business Transfer Scenarios
Merging Two Businesses
- Two sites become one
- Overlapping roles redundant
- Genuine reduction in headcount
- Fair selection needed
Integration and Efficiency
- Combined business needs fewer managers
- Overlapping functions merged
- Genuine organizational reason
- Must follow fair process
Business Closure
- Part of old business closing
- Roles genuinely disappearing
- Transfer of remaining business
- Redundancies can be genuine
Service Provision Change Scenarios
Contract Change
- Client reduces scope of services
- Fewer staff needed
- Genuine reduction in work
- Can be genuine redundancy
Technology Changes
- New equipment needs fewer operators
- Technical ETO reason
- Genuine workforce reduction
- Can be fair
Fair Redundancy Process
Even With TUPE
Standard redundancy process still applies:
- Consult - collective if 20+ in 90 days
- Fair selection - objective criteria
- Consider alternatives - redeployment
- Trial periods - for alternative roles
- Appeal rights - must be offered
- Redundancy pay - if 2+ years' service
Selection Criteria
Must be:
- Objective
- Non-discriminatory
- Applied fairly
- Scored consistently
- Documented
Cannot select:
- Because transferred from old employer
- Due to protected characteristic
- To remove "expensive" staff
- Arbitrarily
Consultation
If 20+ redundancies in 90 days:
- Collective consultation required
- Minimum 30 or 45 days
- Before final decisions
- With representatives
- Failure = protective award
Redundancy Pay Calculation
Continuous Service
Service includes:
- Time with old employer
- Plus time with new employer
- Continuous throughout transfer
- For redundancy calculations
Example: Started with Company A in 2015. Transfer to Company B in 2023. Made redundant by Company B in 2024. Continuous service is 2015-2024 (9 years).
Statutory Redundancy Pay
Based on:
- Age at redundancy
- Years of service (max 20 years)
- Weekly pay (capped at £700)
| Age | Multiplier |
|---|---|
| Under 22 | 0.5 weeks per year |
| 22-40 | 1 week per year |
| 41+ | 1.5 weeks per year |
Maximum: £21,000 statutory (2024/25).
Contractual Redundancy
If contract says:
- Enhanced redundancy scheme
- Better than statutory
- Must honor enhanced terms
- Transferred with employment
Alternative Employment
Duty to Consider
Before making redundant:
- Must consider if suitable alternatives exist
- Other vacancies in business
- Different roles
- Trial periods available
Suitable Alternative
Considered suitable if:
- Similar level of role
- Reasonable location
- Not substantially worse terms
- Match to skills and experience
Trial Period
Four-week minimum:
- Can be extended by agreement
- To assess if suitable
- Can leave during trial
- Redundancy pay preserved
Unreasonable Refusal
If refuse suitable alternative:
- May lose redundancy pay
- But role must genuinely be suitable
- Burden on employer to prove
Discriminatory Redundancy Selection
Protected Characteristics
Cannot select based on:
- Age
- Sex
- Disability
- Race
- Religion/belief
- Sexual orientation
- Pregnancy/maternity
Common Risks
TUPE redundancies risk discrimination if:
- Selecting older workers (age)
- Removing part-timers (indirect sex discrimination)
- Not adjusting for disability
- Targeting those with caring responsibilities (sex)
Must Justify
If criteria have discriminatory impact:
- Must show proportionate means
- To legitimate aim
- No less discriminatory alternative
Bumping
What Is It?
Selecting different employee:
- A is redundant
- But dismiss B instead
- Transfer A into B's role
- "Bumping" B out
Allowed Under TUPE?
Yes, if:
- Genuine business reason (ETO)
- Fair selection process
- Proper consultation
- Clear rationale
But careful - must not be:
- To remove transferred staff
- Discriminatory
- Connected to transfer improperly
Common Scenarios
Scenario 1: Redundancies Week Before Transfer
Old employer makes 10 redundant week before selling business to reduce headcount.
Analysis:
- Timing highly suspicious
- Likely connected to transfer
- Probably automatically unfair TUPE dismissals
- Unless clear evidence of independent reason
Scenario 2: Post-Transfer Merger
Six months after transfer, genuine merger of two departments, overlapping roles, fair selection, redundancies.
Analysis:
- Could be genuine redundancy
- Organizational ETO reason
- Changes to workforce (job reductions)
- Fair process crucial
- May be lawful
Scenario 3: Immediate Post-Transfer Redundancies
Day after transfer, new employer announces redundancies "due to financial position."
Analysis:
- Connected to transfer
- No genuine ETO (cost-cutting)
- Automatically unfair TUPE dismissals
- Should have been planned/consulted before
Challenging Redundancy
Grounds to Challenge
Argue:
- Not genuine redundancy
- Connected to transfer
- Selection unfair
- Process flawed
- Discrimination
- No ETO reason
Evidence Needed
Gather:
- Timeline of transfer and redundancy
- Business case (or lack of)
- Selection criteria and scores
- Consultation records
- Comparator treatment
- Role continuing or not
Claims Available
Depending on facts:
- Automatically unfair dismissal (TUPE)
- Ordinary unfair dismissal (if process unfair)
- Discrimination
- Failure to inform/consult
- Protective award
Summary
Genuine Redundancy Allowed
- TUPE doesn't prevent all redundancies
- Genuine job losses can occur
- Must have ETO reason
- Fair process essential
Tests for Genuine
- Are roles genuinely disappearing?
- Or just transferring with changes?
- Independent business case?
- Fair selection?
- Proper process?
Pre-Transfer Redundancies
- Heavily scrutinized
- Must prove would happen anyway
- Timing very suspicious
- Burden on employer
Post-Transfer Redundancies
- Can be genuine
- Need ETO reason
- Organizational changes legitimate
- But must be real, not pretext
Rights Protected
- Continuous service preserved
- Redundancy pay calculated including old service
- Fair process required
- Selection must be fair
- Alternative employment considered
Key Points
For employees:
- Know if it's genuine or TUPE dismissal
- Challenge if suspicious
- Continuous service protects redundancy calculation
- Get advice
For employers:
- Genuine redundancies OK
- Must have ETO reason if connected to transfer
- Fair process essential
- Document business case
- Timing will be scrutinized
TUPE doesn't prevent genuine redundancies, but protects against using redundancy as cover for transfer-related dismissals. The key is whether the redundancy is real - jobs disappearing - or manufactured to facilitate the transfer.
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Frequently Asked Questions
- Can I be made redundant during a TUPE transfer?
- Yes, if it's a genuine redundancy situation with an ETO (economic, technical or organisational) reason entailing changes in the workforce. However, redundancies made simply to facilitate the transfer or cut costs without genuine business restructuring are automatically unfair dismissals.
- Am I entitled to redundancy pay if made redundant during TUPE?
- Yes, if you have 2+ years' service and it's a genuine redundancy. Your service includes time with the old employer (continuous employment is preserved). Statutory minimum is 0.5-1.5 weeks' pay per year of service depending on age, capped at £700/week, for last 6 complete years.
- How do I know if it's genuine redundancy or TUPE dismissal?
- Genuine redundancy means the role genuinely no longer exists or work requirements have diminished. TUPE dismissal is when you're dismissed to make the transfer easier, cut costs, or because the new employer prefers fewer staff - without actual job disappearing. Timing, business case, and process indicate which it is.